Privacy and Security Notice
ARE WE READY FOR THE FIRST LONG RUNS?
Advance notice required for offsite farms? How much cpu time is available
this week/next few weeks?
Which CPU's to use?
MIT, UVA, OU, ODU
Purposes of first long runs
-to compare data to simulation with
high statistics
-to generate first acceptances
What type of data should we generate?
- CELEG with elastic scattering
and resonances turned on MIT, UVA/2
- Elastic scattering from CELEG
- OU, ODU
- Pi-zero from AO - UVA/2
- Background events (later?)
We need a local coordinator for remote institutions?
MIT - David Rowntree, Jianguo Zhao
OU - Allena Opper
ODU - Andi Klein
UVA - Cole Smith
FSU - Larry Dennis
How big should the file sizes be?
Does it matter? depends on frequency
of crashes, internet copies, etc.)?
How many events do we need?
In ideal case:
W bins of 20 MeV, 0.9 GeV -> beam
energy
Q-squared bins 0.2 -> 1.1*beam energy,
10 bins logarithmically spaced
Hadronic theta bins - 10 degree
bins from 8 to 140 degrees
Hadronic phi bins 20 degree bins
from -180 to 180
At 1.6
GeV, number of bins is 35(W) x 10(Q-squared)
x 13(theta) x 18(phi) = 81,900 bins
81,900 bins x 1000 events/bin (3%
statistics) x 3 (electron fraction) = 246 million events
246 million events @ 1 second/event
= 2844 cpu days
2844 cpu days @ 20 dedicated cpu's
= 4.7 months
(per energy, magnetic field setting, and event type)
For elastic scattering, need
fewer events because of e-p correlations, one W bin, limited theta:
At 1.6 GeV, number of bins is 1(W)
x 10(Q-squared) x 8(theta) x 18(phi) = 1440 bins
4.7 months x 1440/81,900 = 49
cpu days => 12
days @ 4 dedicated cpu's.
If aim for 10%
statistics instead of 3%, above numbers become
2 weeks and 1.2 days.
================> Proposal <===============
-
use 10% of distributed farm for
elastic scattering from CELEG - 1.6 GeV, 60% field
-
use 30% of distributed farm for
pi-zero from AO - 1.6 GeV, 60% field
-
use 60% of distributed farm for
CELEG 1.6 GeV, 60% field
-
accumulate a repository of files
starting ASAP
-
plan to run for 3-4 weeks, starting
ASAP
-
start analyzing the simulated data
after week 1 , modify plan in response
Need to coordinate analysis of simulated data
Can analysis be done at JLAB?
Which energy to start with?
1.6 GeV
-
- high fraction of elastics
-
- smallest number of events needed
-
- pi-zero fraction ok
-
- faster to simulate
-
- smaller event size
Known problems
TOF geometry - when will it be ready
(and tested)?
Systematic errors seen by Kyungseon
and Burin
Are there known crashes on particular
platforms?
What about the MCX bank or other banks?
Append them later, after the long
runs
Statistical accuracy issues
CELEG uses different seed for each
run (check that this is still true)
AO uses different seed or same?